Oregon Beach Erosion

For those that didn%26#39;t read this in The Oregonian, here%26#39;s a link to an interesting story.

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Den

Oregon Beach Erosion

Hey Den,

I recall about 10 years ago, my husband took me out to a place on Nye Beach in Newport where a developer had begun constructing a set of condo units. All that was left of the construction was a concrete slab. One of his OSU professors had shown his class the same structure while it was being built some 8 years before that. The professor predicted the demise of the building due to the fact that it was built on or surrounded by sandstone. I haven%26#39;t been back to Nye beach in many years but I can only assume that the concrete slab has since been swallowed by the ocean and that the coastline continues to erode. I really wish that retirees would build their dream homes somewhere other than right near the ocean. I have to wonder who allowed the building permits. Maybe homeowners should at least know that any dwelling is temporary and that it is only a matter of time before it will be destroyed by erosion, landslide, river meandering or flooding - did I cover everything?

Oregon Beach Erosion

Junlauf- I must have had the same OSU prof :) ! I remember this story and he also included that some shady developers will fish around for a geologist that %26#39;proves%26#39; land is stable, when most geologist say otherwise. There are many examples of erosion on the coast, Waldport- in the 80%26#39;s, Bayocean, etc. Definetly buyer beware.

Also-alot of sand gets dumped out deeper water than it used to, due to jetties(especially the Columbia). So river systems aren%26#39;t adding to sand deposition either.

I could go on and on about how I really worry for the Oregon coast, with all the development and being loved to death. Of course I guess its all about perspective, I think OR is way too developed and Portland is huge. While others probably think oregon is poe-dunk.

Off the soap box-Chinook!!!! :)

Last week we spent a night at the Waves in Newport. It is located at Jumpoff Joe. Not much left of Jumpoff Joe now, It fell into the ocean with some nearby land.

I remember when it was there, nice formation but easy to see why it is gone. I would invest nothing in the Waves or any where near. And there other formations that are gone.

The only coastal property we have is part ownership in Whale Pointe on the rocks in Depoe Bay. If we buy more it will not be on sandstone.

This brought back memories...I lived in small cabins near Garibaldi, Waldport and Tolovana in the 1950%26#39;s. Much later, after college, I regretted that my family had never bought land in the places we had lived. Well, I%26#39;ve been back to Garibaldi and Waldport, and those sites are eroded away. Tolovana--well, too bad for us.. that would have been a nice investment. That would be about where the Stephanie Inn is now. (Used to be Viking Cottages and Major Motel near there, I think, in the 40%26#39;s and 50%26#39;s)

I have also taken a geology beach walk from Arch Capes led by the Forest Service. They also pointed out the fact that many of the lovely homes on bluffs north of there were going to be part of the natural changes that will occur along the coast. Allowing developers to build on sandstone is just insane. However, I know of people who have built on lava beds on the Big Island despite the volcano, and, of course, continual building on the hurricane coast of Florida.

Congratulations to Siuslaw High School!!!!

Way to go Vikings on your 1st 4A State Football Championship in 25 years!!! And congratulations to Sisters High School for a great season and for demonstrating outstanding sportsmanship. A person could not have asked to watch a better football game.

Den

Congratulations to Siuslaw High School!!!!

So were you there? I wondered about you when Siuslaw made final.

Toledo played Siuslaw when I was there. basketball was over night trip to also play Reedsportwe

Congratulations to Siuslaw High School!!!!

Yes we were there!!!

Den

Den

Curious how that triple header works.

If you want to see all three do you pay one or three admissions?

It%26#39;s a steal!! Admission is $7 for adults ($5 for children) and $3 parking. You are allowed to stay for all three games if you choose. We were the first game (it goes 4A, 5A, 6A). Posted attendance was just over 12,000, which, for HS football in Oregon, is pretty impressive.

Den

Portland...here we come.

Ok, so myself and two friends will be in Portland for 4-5 days next year and I%26#39;m looking for some suggestions for our itinerary. To help paint the picture, we%26#39;re 3 Australians in our mid 20s, travelling the USA; Portland will be our second stop after San Fran.

We%26#39;ll be staying in the HI Hostel in NorthWest Portland (unless it%26#39;s not recommended!?), and hope to see Powell%26#39;s (obviously), tour some microbreweries, and get out to Mt St Helens. The whole kit and kaboodle, really.

Any food, bar, and music/book store suggestion would also be appreciated.

Oooh, and we%26#39;d like to see some bands while we%26#39;re in town too.

So Portland? What you got?

PS - I hear the doughnuts are pretty crazy in your neck of the woods also.

Portland...here we come.

Oh good for you!! Some Australian friends of ours were here this summer, starting in SF and driving up the Coast to Portland and beyond..a great way to see some of the more spectacular views of the Coastline and forests..

The HI Hostel in the NW is very nice. Just blocks from where I live, a nice coffee shop across the street, a lovely park about a block away, NW 21st street with tons of restaurants and shops blocks away..

It depends on what time of year you will be here, as to what the good things to do are, summer is better for going to Mt St Helens ( you will have to rent a car for that) and of course, you must go to the coast for at least a day trip..Cannon Beach would be my choice of a quick and easy day trip..(90 min from town)..

Powells is THE bookstore, down the block is a good record store ( Powells does sell music too)

I would suggest reading the thread on here called Eating Out in Portland for restaraunt ideas.

Also...for eating/foodies ideas..go to www.portlandfood.org

www.pova.com is good for reading up on what is happening when in town and nearby.As well as this site, welcome to Portland...

http://www.el.com/to/portland/

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/ for weather forecasts

http://www.portlandartmuseum.org/ The Art Museum

http://www.japanesegarden.com/ The Japanese Gardens

Nightlife-Bands

http://www.pdxnet.net/bands/pdxlinks.html

Hope this helps get you started :)

Portland...here we come.

Good to hear of your forthcoming trip to Portland, Oregon. You will be staying in a very fine part of the city and your hostel was just written up in our local newspaper, The Oregonian. The hostel is remodeling and expanding due to its popularity. You will be only a few blocks away from one of the nicest shopping areas in Portland: Twenty-third Street (Nob Hill) - many boutiques along with casual and fancy dining. If you walk in the opposite direction you will be in the Pearl District -- an area that was once all industrial and commercial and is now the hot place to live and dine - great lofts and condos, art galleries, great bookstores, shopping, and all types of wine bars and great eateries. Be sure to ride on the Portland Streetcar line-not too far from your hostel - go to www.TriMet.com to see the schedules and routes. All buses and streetcars are free in the downtown area called Fareless Square. We have a good bus/rapid transit system - you can go from the airport to downtown, the Zoo , Rose Gardens, Japanese Gardens, etc on the MAX (rapid transit) and on bus lines. Your hostel is in area just northwest of what is considered ';downtown'; . Make sure to go down to the River Front to walk along the Willamette River (it is not as grand as Sydney Harbour but the views are good and you will find it a good place for some exercise. Also if you cross one of our many bridges over to the South East part of the city be sure to walk along the Esplanade. Have a great time!

you must be talking about voodoo doughnuts.....

I think a fun place to go for 20 somethings would be the doug fir lounge. There is a stage downstairs and almost always have musical guests.

Some of the larger music stores are music millenium and everyday music.

also maybe check out the crystal ballroom, they have musicans there and dancing as well....

When you get into town, grab a free paper called, The Willamette Week. It usually has a good run down of all local events for the week.

I am an %26#39;eastside%26#39; girl, so I enjoy the hawthorne district. More eclectic, bohiemian type area. They also have the movie theater called the bagdad, which is fun too. (but i know some wouldn%26#39;t nessisarly recommend the bagdad, if you are on limited time and looking for ultimate must-see attractions)

So you are not stopping on the drive up?

If Portland is you second stop.

Do you take turns at driving?

Or will you sight-see on the drive up?

What do you like? City life? Caves? Mountains? Ocean?

Unfortunately we won%26#39;t have time to drive. We WERE going to catch the train up, but since it sounds like the Amtrak up that way is consistently late, we thought we%26#39;d fly and have another day in Portland.

Thanks for all the comments...the Bagdad looks like a winner!

Glad to hear you decided to fly up from San Francisco to Portland. The Amtrak service North/South is sooo bad. Consistently late.

East/West trains are much better--use different railroad company tracks.

You will love Portland--and as the Oregon Lottery commercial says--';There are no bad days at the Oregon Coast';. Cannon Beach is a great idea.

Powell%26#39;s for sure for the book store.

Laurelthirst for great music, it%26#39;s the musician%26#39;s hangout. Beer and wine. NE 30th and Glisan. Happy hour is free music. Try a Sunday night if you can and see the Freak Mountain Ramblers.

Bridgeport Pub is a great microbrew place at about 13th and NW Marshall. Great beer. Good food.

Music Millenium on NW 23rd is my favorite music store for CDs, etc. Funky and with a great ambience.

Have no clue about doughnuts, but do love Ken%26#39;s Artisan Bakery on NW 21st for exceptional coffee and morning baked goods.

Have a wonderful visit!

if your itenerary includes being carless in seattle-you might check out amtrak from portland to seattle. This train route is more reliable and heavily used...

Let%26#39;s see...Portland is a city full of great restaurants and bars, not to mention live music. So, rather than naming specific places, hit streets and bar hop/club hop, youj can%26#39;t go wrong.

1. Of course NW 23rd and 21st. are great spots .

2. Hawthorne has too many great shops and watering holes to count.

3. NE 28th just north of Burnside. It%26#39;s a small area, but there are some good bars Beuhaland s/p is one of my favorites.

4. NE Alameda. Is an up and coming area with many excelent restaurants and coffee places.

5. N. Mississippi is still up and coming, but I think is definitely worth a visit.

If you hit all of the above streets, you%26#39;ll be sure to have a good time.

Wow, thanks for all the great replies and suggestions, we%26#39;ll be sure to check them out. I truly can%26#39;t wait to hit Portland. It%26#39;s one of the cities I%26#39;m most looking forward to seeing.

And yes, we do plan on Amtraking it to Seattle, so it%26#39;s encouraging to learn that this trip is more reliable. What about buses?

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Sunriver Resort Traditions - Over Christmas

We are spending Christmas at Sunriver Resort. All the reviews I%26#39;ve read have been during the summer. Has anyone stayed there during the winter months. What%26#39;s it like? Any tips on things to do?

Sunriver Resort Traditions - Over Christmas

I haven%26#39;t been in December, but late January/early February were absolutely beautiful. They have a fabulous new spa/fitness center and the lodge has a great bar/restuarant with a roaring fireplace. The area (Sunriver/Bend) also has a quite a few winter recreation options. Bend has a cute downtown with lots of shops, restaurants. Sisters (west of Sunriver/Bend) is quaint and worth the trip if you are into boutiques and antique stores.

Sunriver Resort Traditions - Over Christmas

Besides the obvious winter sports around Mt. Bachelor, you can get a dog sled ride. Sunriver has a covered outdoor skating rink in its Mall area. Some other things to do in and around Sunriver include going to the Nature Center %26amp; Observatory. On December 26th they%26#39;ll have their annual bird count. There is a family Christmas concert in Sunriver on Dec 23rd. The High Desert Museum is not far away and they always have cool things going on. On Dec 21st, they have a Wild Cooking class, and every day they have exibits and presentations that include their collection of wild animals from Central Oregon. We stayed in Sunriver a couple of winters ago and we really enjoyed taking advantage of the many bike/walking trails. When you%26#39;re bundled up properly for the cold, it can be invigorating and it is quite beautiful. Bend is not far away for shopping , excellent restaurants, theater and other activities. You%26#39;ll find plenty to do - enjoy your holiday!

I think you can still go iceskating there. If the condo or home you are staying in has bikes, you can ride them around if you don%26#39;t mind the cold. Hopefully, there is snow on the ground when you get there. You can also drive into Bend for shopping but there is some neat shopping in Sunriver. Again, there is skiing at Bachelor.

hair bands

Restaurant Help!

Okay so I am trying to find a restuarant that I went to in Salem about a year and a half ago. I know this is a long shot. Okay it was either a steakhouse or brewpub or something like that. I%26#39;m thinking that it must be near a place with a lot of employees because it was PACKED for lunch. It has a pretty small parking lot from what I remember. I think it was next to some water to. A river maybe. The inside is pretty dark. Just to the left in the dining room is a section that has a few tables sort of raised above the rest of the room. It has a wooden railing going around it too. The food there was pretty amazing to me. The menu was lots of beef and there was some fish and chicken type things too. Like any other restaurant. Oh one other thing. I%26#39;m pretty sure it%26#39;s within 5 miles or so of the Holiday Inn Express on Hawthorne %26amp; Mission. Any help at all is very much appreciated.

Restaurant Help!

Was it the Ram? (across from Willamette U) That%26#39;s the only place I can think of in that general area.

Restaurant Help!

Yeah that%26#39;s it. Thanks. You are awesome.

Yet Another Award for Portland

Frommer%26#39;s Guidebook has named Portland as one of it%26#39;s 12 top travel destinations in the world for 2007.

http://tinyurl.com/sadcp

This has been a great year for recognition of the Rose City. Other awards and top lists that have featured Portland this year:

Conde Nast Traveler - PDX #1 Best Domestic Airport for Business Travel (I%26#39;ve been saying this for years, but until now, nobody has believed me). http://tinyurl.com/sadcp

ICLEI - Portland only U.S. City to make the list of top 9 World%26#39;s most successful cities. http://tinyurl.com/yxrpcn

Dog Fancy Magazine - Portland #1 Dog-Friendly City in U.S.

http://tinyurl.com/u6dgn

SustaineLane - Portland #1 Most Sustainable City

http://www.sustainlane.us/overview.jsp

Men%26#39;s Journal - Portland #1 Place to Live

mensjournal.com/feature/0604/bestplaces.html

Prevention Magazine - Portland #1 Walking City

http://tinyurl.com/r747r

Bicycling Magazine - Portland #1 Cycling City

http://tinyurl.com/yyrjkk

Bankers Life - Portland #1 City for Seniors

bankerslife.com/Web/AboutUs-PR-TopCities.aspx

GMAC - Oregon #1 Least Dumb Drivers (really?)

cnn.com/2005/鈥ndex.html

We truly are lucky. The more I travel, the more I appreciate Portland.

Yet Another Award for Portland

Thanks so much for the post J%26amp;S! As we were going over the Coronado Bridge this week in San Diego, it reminded us of Portland in certain areas. Portland is a great place to live and visit. Happy Holidays to you! :)

Yet Another Award for Portland

Hi, thanks J%26amp;S, great list of How Other People Agree with Those of Us Who Live In Portland ....sorry, wasn%26#39;t that one of the publicatios ? LOL

Even the dog will agree :)

It really is a wonderful area to live in, we feel quite blessed to have been able to visit here, choose it as our next home and be able to live in the heart of the city with a view of the West Hills and all those beautiful huge green trees .. with the Coast just 90 minutes away..a little bit of everything wonderful about Oregon.

As syrahgirl knows, it is a great place to visit too.

Nice to see our city getting the recognition it deserves. Although it would be nice to keep it more of a secret;)

Maybe it is jetlag (just got home an hour or so ago from Florida)...but Coronado and Portland similar...not in the over a couple dozen times I%26#39;ve been to Coronado, lol!

Welcome home, Mtngrl. :-) Did you get to see the shuttle launch?

LOL, the San Diego that I know and Portland are not very similar to me either..Welcome back Mtngrl..can%26#39;t wait to hear about the Shuttle Launch and Disney.

Some how I see a problem with Portland being top 12 travel destination.

Think we would put Paris, Rome, Kyoto, New York City, Edinburgh, Dublin, London, Santa Fe, Venice, Florence, Nashville and several others ahead of it.

Thr parameters used are more why should you live here, not travel here. dogs, bikes, walking

I think Oregon one of top places in world to visit, Portland small part of that.

Agree with you Phril-

I think Frommers just ran out of cities or Paris was their 2006 destination :)

Although I do agree with the #1 airport. I haven%26#39;t been to very many airports, but I definetly think PDX is nicer than the ones i%26#39;ve visited.

Definitely PDX is a great airport!

Coming home after 17 hours of travel, it was so great to be met by the nice smiling people at our airport :)

Thanks:) Yes, we saw the launch....it went on the 2nd attempt, so 2 nights of heavy security and lots of waiting, but oh so worth it!!!

The PDX airport...yes...great...and especially like Scarlett says, after travelling it REALLY looks good! Just like your own bed, lol! We had long flights and a couple delays, so PDX was looking pretty darn good when we finally arrived home.

Great, Mtngrl. That%26#39;s an experience not many can claim, and a night launch to boot! Must have been thrilling. Did you get any photos? ;-) On the subject of this thread, I agree with you. I wonder if Portland will still be winning awards 15 years from now when there%26#39;s a million more people living in the metro area.

looking for home(s) .. rental needed for feburary ~

hi ! im new to this forum.. but came across it and thought id post my question here and see if anyone could help me in any way.

i have not started to call real estate /rental agents yet.. as i just began my ';search for the perfect spot'; yesterday.

what i am looking for is a home or homes (close together) that would be in a private/secluded area.. it is for a get toegether, and im needing to sleep about 20 adults. ( 10 couples ) looking for beach access, but with ';woods'; around also. ( depending on area )

we would need it for a weekend in febuary. still open to dates, perfer end of month (16,17,18) but can adjust if needed. (march even?)

we are not looking for ';hotel'; type situation, with other rooms around. we are looking for something that allows private, quiet, relaxation. and secluded from neighbors. it can be 2 homes, or whatever you have that fits what im looking for.. ( if you have homes close together that you rent..) or lodge/beach cabin(s) ect..

thank you for your time, and ANY and ALL suggestions/ideas or offers will be considered and replied to.

kimi martinez and anthony slyter ~ kimi68t@hotmail.com

* please put RENTAL INFO on the subj line, so i dont mark as spam ! thank you. *

looking for home(s) .. rental needed for feburary ~

Your best bet will most likely be vrbo.com.

Den

looking for home(s) .. rental needed for feburary ~

I just rented from : http://4u2unwind.com ... the reservation process went smoothly and I will be getting back with a trip report after the weekend.

I am thinking about moving to Portland and the Tigard area. What is the cost of living like there?

I would look into vrbo.com , we found just what we were looking for there, lots to choose from and various price ranges in all areas on the oregon coast. Good luck, and I hope you have as much fun as we did.

Check out www.horizonrentals.com They hae lots of homes for rent in the lincoln city oregon area.

Three immediate and good responses, plus a couple more later ones, and no response from poster. Glad we could help :) Perhaps they only wanted email sent directly to them since they included that information. If so, I hope they were responsive.